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S 02 | Ep 47 Why Customers Don't Buy Pain Points or ROI

Author Talks | McKinsey & CompanyRob Snyder is an author, startup advisor, and former McKinsey consultant who holds an MBA from Harvard Business School. After experiencing the frustrating gap between conventional business education and real-world startup trajectory—navigating years of stagnant growth before co-leading a startup to $104 million in revenue in just two years—he dedicated his career to figuring out why new ventures actually succeed. Through his work with hundreds of struggling startups, Snyder developed the "Pull" framework to help founders rethink enterprise sales, eliminate unnecessary product demos, and build go-to-market strategies rooted in true customer demand, concepts he shares in his book, The Power of Pull

 

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Why Conventional Wisdom Fails Founders

The Flaw in Conventional Wisdom 

Snyder explains that traditional frameworks urge founders to build "product-centric" solutions by hunting for big customer pain points, big problems, or clear offers of high return on investment (ROI). However, relying on these factors is a trap. In reality:

Customers live with dozens of daily pain points and high-priority problems without ever taking action to fix them.

Discovery interviews can be misleading; potential buyers will often praise an idea, confirm a problem exists, and agree that a tool offers ROI, yet still refuse to buy it.

Even if a product sells, it often suffers from poor implementation and high churn because the broader organization doesn't truly care.

The "Pull" Framework 

Instead of focusing purely on product features or static pain points, Snyder argues founders must understand what actually drives a purchase: pull.

Prioritized Progress: People do not buy software or services simply because they are valuable or solve a problem. They buy when a tool helps them accomplish an active project or goal that is already at the top of their immediate to-do list.

Customer-Centric Focus: Success comes from unlocking and unblocking what the customer is actively trying to achieve right now, rather than pushing technological value onto them.

"At the root of all this is that we don't know why people buy things... People don't buy things just because they have pain points. That's just not the case. They don't buy things because they have problems." — Rob Snyder

 

The True Physics of Customer "Pull"

The Mechanics of True "Pull" Snyder explains that sales success isn't about pitching an impressive product or relying on simple convenience. Instead, true "pull" only occurs when two specific criteria are met in a buyer's mind:

An Active Priority: The customer is actively trying to accomplish a specific, high-priority task right now.

Inadequate Existing Options: Their current tools, processes, or alternatives are simply not good enough to get the job done—leaving them feeling blocked.

When a customer faces this exact dynamic, they will "rip the product out of your hands." Without both conditions present, sales efforts become an uphill battle.

Why Alternative Solutions Fail Addressing behavioral models (like Stanford's BJ Fogg framework), Snyder clarifies that removing friction or making a product "easy" isn't always the answer:

The Option Gap: Current alternatives fail for various reasons, not just complexity. A solution might fail because it's too expensive, but in enterprise tech, an option can also fail because it is too cheap or simple to be taken seriously.

The Reality of Inbound Leads: Inbound inquiries don't automatically mean a sale. Curiosity, self-education, or industry paranoia (especially around new tech like AI) bring plenty of looklizards who waste time.

The Goal of Sales Qualification: Whether dealing with inbound interest or outbound outreach, the objective is to screen for people who are actively stuck—not just interested.

"It's almost like a force pressing against a wall—I'm being held back. Only in that situation will somebody buy something; they will pull it out of your hands." — Rob Snyder

 

B2B Enterprise Physics and Eliminating Demos 

The PULL Acronym Snyder's framework simplifies the conditions required for a deal to happen:

Project: An active initiative the buyer is prioritizing right now.

Unavoidable: An urgent, non-negotiable need to execute that project.

List of options: The alternative methods or products available.

Limitations: Structural flaws or gaps in those existing options that prevent success.

Enterprise "Sales Physics" Moving from small businesses to large enterprise accounts doesn't change the underlying physics; it simply adds friction.

Finding the Real Pull-Holder: An enthusiastic early contact or "champion" may not have the internal authority to buy. The goal of early interactions is to network up to the individual who actually holds the pull and can productively exert internal force.

Navigating Internal Friction: The primary pull-holder must often recruit internal allies and navigate security checks, vendor reviews, and committee approvals to push the deal across the line.

Rethinking Demos and Pilots Contrary to the common belief that AI makes free pilots and personalized demos necessary, Snyder advises doing the exact opposite:

Eliminate Up to 100% of Demos and POCs: Founders often make the product demonstration or pilot the center of the sales process, believing it proves value. In reality, relying heavily on demos and free trials often slows down deals or obscures whether true pull exists.

Focus on the Core Need: Sales processes move fastest when you remove unnecessary pilots and demos, focusing instead on whether the buyer has an unavoidable project with inadequate existing options.

"Of the startups I help, I typically eliminate 90% to 100% of their demos, and I eliminate 90% to 100% of their proof of concepts or pilots... The sales process works way better when you cut out the demo almost entirely, cut out the pilot almost entirely, and only include what is absolutely necessary." — Rob Snyder 

 

Streamlining Enterprise Sales and Eliminating Friction 

How Focusing on "Pull" Compresses 18-Month Sales Cycles Snyder shares an example of an AI startup selling into European insurance agencies that slashed its average sales cycle from over 12 months down to under three months. They accomplished this by shifting away from broad platform pitches and lengthy trial periods:

The Danger of Extensive Demos: Showing extra features or pitching a broad "company vision" increases friction and surface area for potential objections. It invites unnecessary questions, involves more decision-makers, and slows down approvals.

The 30-Second Micro-Demo: Instead of giving full product tours, successful teams conduct rapid discovery around active projects and blockers. They then present a brief 30-second demo targeted strictly to the single bottleneck preventing the buyer's progress.

Reframing "Pilots": Traditional 3- to 6-month proof-of-concept (POC) pilots often evaluate irrelevant factors, like general employee usage. If a tool cuts a task from 40 hours down to 10 minutes, adoption is guaranteed; the only necessary evaluation is validating specific accuracy metrics—which an expert can verify in 24 hours.

Rethinking Discovery and Landing Enterprise Accounts Shevelenko notes that broad feature sets—while useful for expanding existing accounts—actively hurt early sales conversations. Trying to address multiple organizational priorities at once adds friction:

Aerodynamic Pitching: A streamlined sales process requires removing non-essential elements. Pitching only what directly unblocks the client creates a tighter, more effective sales journey.

Moving Beyond Standard Frameworks: Rigid discovery checklists and popular qualification frameworks (such as BANT, MEDDIC, or MEDDPICC) often feel like interrogations, missing the deeper underlying dynamics of client priorities.

"If you add anything other than that—if you talk about your vision or features they didn't ask about—you increase the surface area of things they need to understand. In physics terms, that increases friction, increases drag, and reduces the aerodynamics of the deal. Demos are really dangerous." — Rob Snyder

 

Uncovering Personal Drivers and Finding Fast-Closing Customers

Fixing the "Colonoscopy" Discovery Call Snyder critiques standard qualification frameworks like BANT, MEDDIC, and MEDDPICC, noting that leading with questions about budget or authority makes buyers defensive and feels like an interrogation.

Focus on Priority: Instead of probing for budget, ask open-ended questions about what top-priority project caused them to take the call, and have them rank those priorities.

Avoid Artificial Urgency: A seller cannot force a buyer to drop their top priority for a new product. Success relies on aligning directly with what is already an urgent "gun to the head" task.

Uncovering "So That" Motivations Shevelenko notes that while buyers present business goals, they are often driven by implicit personal motives—like getting promoted, securing recognition, or protecting their job.

Secondary Outcomes: Snyder frames these personal drivers as "so that" statements (e.g., I need to finish this project [so that] I can hit my bonus [so that] I get promoted).

Navigating Personal Fit: While early conversations should focus strictly on the core project, understanding an individual's personal "so that" motivations over time helps tailor the experience so the deal feels right to them personally.

How to Find Buyers with High "Pull" To identify where to find more fast-closing prospects, Snyder warns against theoretical whiteboard sessions and instead advises analyzing actual customer history:

Study Fast Buyers: Examine the customers who bought unusually quickly, or those who ghosted for months and then suddenly returned to buy instantly.

Identify the Internal Trigger: Interview these buyers to pinpoint what changed in their world (e.g., a new hire, a failed internal tool, or a shifted corporate strategy) that made your product suddenly relevant.

Test Hypotheses: Use those specific real-world triggers to pitch lookalike prospects. If true pull is present, those prospects will want to move rapidly.

Navigating Enterprise Inertia When selling into heavily regulated enterprise environments, deal velocity comes down to balancing two fundamental forces:

Internal Pull: The force exerted by a champion who urgently needs an unblocking solution.

Internal Friction: The structural drag caused by compliance, risk aversion, and security policies.

Winning quickly in slow-moving industries requires finding a champion whose internal pull is strong enough to overcome that regulatory drag.

"When you start with BANT and say, 'So, what's your budget?'—they're thinking, 'Who the heck are you?' You get people defensive, and discovery starts to feel like a colonoscopy." — Rob Snyder

 

Finding Change Agents in Slow-Moving Industries 

Overcoming Equilibrium in Regulated Spaces Selling into regulated environments (like enterprise insurance, higher education, or healthcare) presents a unique challenge: default equilibrium. In these organizations, doing nothing is often the easiest and safest choice.

The Absence of Burning Projects: Unlike startups, which are overwhelmed with competing urgent priorities, regulated spaces often lack immediate, burning initiatives. Existing options are usually "good enough," and the effort required to change exceeds the perceived benefit.

The High Cost of Friction: Because structural friction and compliance rules are so heavy, most employees opt not to push for new tools or processes.

Targeting the True "Change Agents" To close deals in low-urgency environments, founders must locate individuals who possess internal drive and the ability to maneuver through organizational red tape:

The Internal Catalyst: Success relies on finding "change agents"—ambitious leaders (often hires from fast-paced environments like consulting) who actively refuse to accept the status quo and are determined to push projects forward.

Top-Down Authority: If an internal catalyst cannot be found in the middle management ranks, the alternative strategy is to go to the very top of the organization. Executive leaders often view external solutions as the necessary catalyst to break through institutional inertia.

"If you don't find pull, nothing else matters. If you do find pull, everything else solves itself." — Rob Snyder

 

How to Connect with Rob Snyder

Website: Visit RobSnyder.org to read more about his work, access resources, and learn about his advising services.

Book: Search for The Power of Pull on Audible, Amazon, or your preferred audiobook and ebook platforms.

Social & Professional Networking: Reach out to Rob directly or follow his latest insights on LinkedIn.

 

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